Telescope Comparison
Takahashi FS-60CB vs Vixen ED80Sf
The specs are close. The experience isn't.
First light
Takahashi · 60mm · £729
The custom-rig optical tube
- 60mm refractor — optical tube only, no mount included
- 355mm focal length at f/5.9
- Requires a compatible mount before you can observe anything
- Best for: observers who already own a suitable mount or are building a specific imaging rig
- Not a complete purchase — budget at least £100–300 extra for a mount before observing
Vixen · 80mm · £649
The custom-rig optical tube
- 80mm refractor — optical tube only, no mount included
- 600mm focal length at f/7.5
- Requires a compatible mount before you can observe anything
- Best for: observers who already own a suitable mount or are building a specific imaging rig
- Not a complete purchase — budget at least £100–300 extra for a mount before observing
The full picture
The numbers that separate these two scopes — and what they mean at the eyepiece.
Aperture
Vixen ED80Sf gathers 1.8× more light. On bright targets — Moon, Saturn, Jupiter — you won't notice. On fainter targets — dim galaxies, faint globular clusters — the gap is real.
Focal length
Vixen ED80Sf's longer focal length reaches higher magnification with the same eyepiece — better reach for planetary detail. Takahashi FS-60CB's shorter focal length gives a wider true field — better for large open clusters and extended nebulae.
Focal ratio
Takahashi FS-60CB's faster f/5.9 delivers wider fields with any eyepiece — better for open clusters and large nebulae. Vixen ED80Sf's f/7.5 provides more magnification per eyepiece — better for fine planetary detail.
Mount type
Neither scope includes a mount — both require a separate purchase before you can observe.
Weight (OTA)
Similar optical tube weight. Any portability difference between these setups comes from the mount, not the tube itself.
Optical design
Both are refractors — no mirrors to collimate, good contrast, colour-free stars with ED or APO glass. The differences between them are in aperture, focal ratio, and glass quality.
At the eyepiece
Takahashi
Takahashi FS-60CB
Saturn's rings are clearly visible as a distinct shape around the planet; Jupiter shows a disc with two cloud bands. The Moon is an excellent target with clear crater and highland detail at moderate power. The Orion Nebula (M42) is visible as a bright, distinct patch with the Trapezium as a tight cluster. Open clusters are a strength — the Pleiades, the Beehive (M44), the Hyades fill a wide-field eyepiece well. The fast focal ratio delivers wide fields — good for large nebulae and extended star fields.
Vixen
Vixen ED80Sf
At moderate magnification, Saturn's rings are cleanly separated from the disk. Jupiter shows two equatorial cloud bands and four Galilean moons. The Moon rewards extended sessions at the eyepiece — the terminator is full of crater and highland detail. The Orion Nebula (M42) is bright and structured, the Trapezium straightforward to split. Open clusters are excellent — the Pleiades, the Double Cluster in Perseus, M35 in Gemini. The Andromeda Galaxy (M31) shows a clear bright core. The longer focal ratio gives the sharp, high-contrast images that quality refractors are known for — planetary detail and pinpoint stars with a good eyepiece. The Vixen ED80Sf gathers 1.8× more light than the Takahashi FS-60CB — a difference that's marginal on bright targets but visible on fainter ones: dimmer galaxies, faint globular clusters, and extended nebulosity that sits below the threshold of the smaller aperture.
The real tradeoff
Both scopes are capable. The question is which one fits the way you actually observe.
Both scopes are solving a similar problem in a similar way. The differences are real — focal ratio and field of view — but these show up after several months of regular use, not on the first night. Pick the one whose design best matches how you actually plan to observe.
The dark side
Every scope has a personality. Here’s where each one gets difficult.
Takahashi
Takahashi FS-60CB
No mount included
You cannot observe until you buy a separate compatible mount — add at least £100–300 before you have a working telescope.
Nothing to look through on day one
Until a mount arrives, the optical tube is a piece of glass you cannot point at the sky.
Vixen
Vixen ED80Sf
No mount included
You cannot observe until you buy a separate compatible mount — add at least £100–300 before you have a working telescope.
Nothing to look through on day one
Until a mount arrives, the optical tube is a piece of glass you cannot point at the sky.
Which is right for you?
Two different buyers. Two different right answers.
The custom-rig optical tube
Takahashi · Takahashi FS-60CB
You’ll love this if…
- You already own a compatible equatorial or alt-az mount — this is the optical tube you've specifically chosen to put on it
- You're building an imaging rig piece by piece and know exactly what you need at the end of a focuser
- Choosing an optical tube independently of the mount gives you more flexibility over your overall system
This will frustrate you if…
- You buy it without fully accounting for the mount — add at least £100–300 to the purchase price before you have a working telescope
- You expected a complete package and didn't realise this is a bare optical tube that cannot be used without a separate mount
The custom-rig optical tube
Vixen · Vixen ED80Sf
You’ll love this if…
- You already own a compatible equatorial or alt-az mount — this is the optical tube you've specifically chosen to put on it
- You're building an imaging rig piece by piece and know exactly what you need at the end of a focuser
- Choosing an optical tube independently of the mount gives you more flexibility over your overall system
This will frustrate you if…
- You buy it without fully accounting for the mount — add at least £100–300 to the purchase price before you have a working telescope
- You expected a complete package and didn't realise this is a bare optical tube that cannot be used without a separate mount
Our verdict
At similar price points, these scopes offer different amounts of aperture per pound. The Vixen ED80Sf gives you more light-gathering for your money — and for visual observing, aperture per pound is the most useful single metric.
For pure optical value, the Vixen ED80Sf is the stronger pick. The Takahashi FS-60CB compensates with other features — decide whether those trade-offs justify the premium. If I had to choose: the Vixen ED80Sf — more aperture per pound means more sky.
Takahashi FS-60CB
View Takahashi FS-60CB →Vixen ED80Sf
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Every data point, for those who want to go further.
Full specifications
Fields highlighted in blue or amber indicate the better value for that spec. Data is manufacturer-stated and may vary.
How much can it see?
| Spec | Takahashi FS-60CB | Vixen ED80Sf |
|---|---|---|
Apertureⓘ The most important spec — bigger = more light = better views | 60mm | 80mm |
Focal Length Longer = more magnification potential | 355mm | 600mm |
Focal Ratio Lower f-number = wider field of view; higher = more magnification per eyepiece | f/5.9 | f/7.5 |
Optical Design The type of optics — each design has different strengths | Refractor | Refractor |
Coatings Better coatings = more light transmission through the optics | Takahashi proprietary fully multi-coated fluorite doublet | Fully multi-coated ED doublet on all air-to-glass surfaces |
How do you point it?
| Spec | Takahashi FS-60CB | Vixen ED80Sf |
|---|---|---|
Mount Type The mechanical system that holds and moves the telescope | None (OTA only) | None (OTA only) |
GoTo Computer-controlled pointing — finds any of thousands of objects automatically | ||
Tracking Motor keeps objects centred as the Earth rotates — essential for astrophotography |
The focuser
| Spec | Takahashi FS-60CB | Vixen ED80Sf |
|---|---|---|
Focuser Size 2" accepts wider eyepieces and gives better low-power views | 1.25" | 2" |
Focuser Type Rack-and-pinion is standard; Crayford and dual-speed are smoother | Helical focuser | Dual-speed Crayford (with 1.25" adapter) |
Size & weight
| Spec | Takahashi FS-60CB | Vixen ED80Sf |
|---|---|---|
OTA Weightⓘ Optical tube only — useful for comparing mount load capacity | 0.9kg | 1.8kg |
Tube Length | 260mm | 528mm |
Tube Material | Aluminium | Aluminium |
What's in the box?
| Spec | Takahashi FS-60CB | Vixen ED80Sf |
|---|---|---|
Diagonal Tilts the eyepiece 90° for comfortable viewing — useful on refractors |
Blue highlight: Takahashi FS-60CB advantage · Amber highlight: Vixen ED80Sf advantage · Greyed cells: equal or subjective.